Painting the Kitchen, normal for a first coat?

[Rage2132]

I just finished putting on the first coat on the kitchen on top of the apartment's primer.

When the paint is drying, it appears to be a bit sploatchy and you can see difference in paint tones due to brush/roller strokes.

I've only retouched old paint (same color just recoating) and never seen this happen. Is this normal to have a weird looking first coat, and it just looks better when you get to the third?

TIA!

[Chuckles]

yeah first coat looks shitty

[xcelor8]

The key is to make sure you put enough paint on the walls, don't be stingy, and use very good paint, baer paint from home depot is the top rated paint right now. It is normal for the walls when drying to look a little shcy, let it dry, don't try and touch it up let it dry fully the assess how it looks. Unless you really screwed something up, once dried fully it should look fine.

[WrxHottie]

Yeah you just have to put multiple coats on, maybe get a better roller, I find the cheap ones suck. Get a nice thick fluffy one that will allow you a nice thick coat!

[cancersticks]

Do not use low quality paint!! It's worth a few extra bucks to get a good brand; it will cover alot better than lower grades. In my experiences painting Behr and other Home Depot/Lowes brands look ok on newer walls (new drywall, very smooth wall surface) but complete poop on rougher walls. After talking to a local painter and paint store, I switched over to Benjamin Moore paints and haven't used anything since.

If you're using a roller, make sure you get the correct nap on it, as 'fluffier' rollers aren't necissarily better. If the walls are in great shape, nice and smooth, use a roller that has a very fine nap. The worse shape the walls are in, increase the nap size. Look here and use that to pick the roller accordingly.

Like xcelor8 said, paint looks funky as it dries so don't use that are an indicator of what the final product will look like. Give it time to dry fully. And don't bother with a third coat. Two coats at the most.

[Lone_Gunman]

make sure you are using good quality brushes and rollers, more so on the brushes, bristles coming out in the paint is a PITA. And make sure to use the roller correctly. Load up the roller, with enough paint so it is loaded, but not dripping. Then pick a 5 foot by 5 foot (max) square on the wall, roll at a 45 degree angle, from the lower right of the square, to the upper left of the square. Then work the roller in up and down motions, evenly moving over towards the right of the square. The idea is to keep the roller loaded with fresh paint as long as possible, resulting in an even coat. Also, never roll a "dry" roller on a freshly painted wall, it will suck paint right off the wall...add some more to the roller and go to town if you need to fix a holiday.

[ceejamon]

Good Paint + Good Rollers / Brushes + Good Technique = 1 good coat should do

There's not much to the technique, really, so look at your paint and roller quality first. Also, some surfaces will react differently to the paint. Sheetrock is one thing, but painting over old paneling and such is very different. I painted my kitchen a few weeks ago and it came out fine. I had to touch up 3-4 small places where I had used a brush and the brush strokes were visible, but that was it.

[Chuckles]

Originally Posted by ceejamon

Good Paint + Good Rollers / Brushes + Good Technique = 1 good coat should do

There's not much to the technique, really, so look at your paint and roller quality first. Also, some surfaces will react differently to the paint. Sheetrock is one thing, but painting over old paneling and such is very different. I painted my kitchen a few weeks ago and it came out fine. I had to touch up 3-4 small places where I had used a brush and the brush strokes were visible, but that was it.

actually multiple coats lasts alot longer than just a single coat. you can only put so much paint on in one coat before it runs and looks like ass.

[ceejamon]

Originally Posted by Chuckles

actually multiple coats lasts alot longer than just a single coat. you can only put so much paint on in one coat before it runs and looks like ass.

Obviously multiple coats would look better, but I painted over older paint, and it looks fine.

I cleaned it really well first, though.

[llljlalslolnlll]

If the previous tenant did some serious cooking, the oils and such on the wall could affect it slightly.

[miasman1]

Originally Posted by cancersticks

Do not use low quality paint!! It's worth a few extra bucks to get a good brand; it will cover alot better than lower grades. In my experiences painting Behr and other Home Depot/Lowes brands look ok on newer walls (new drywall, very smooth wall surface) but complete poop on rougher walls. After talking to a local painter and paint store, I switched over to Benjamin Moore paints and haven't used anything since.

If you're using a roller, make sure you get the correct nap on it, as 'fluffier' rollers aren't necissarily better. If the walls are in great shape, nice and smooth, use a roller that has a very fine nap. The worse shape the walls are in, increase the nap size. Look here and use that to pick the roller accordingly.

Like xcelor8 said, paint looks funky as it dries so don't use that are an indicator of what the final product will look like. Give it time to dry fully. And don't bother with a third coat. Two coats at the most.

QFT. Behr=shit, I used Kelly-Moore and Dunn-Edwards for my painting project this past summer. For Home Depot paint, I had better luck with Glidden. For painting new drywall, you want to use a GOOD primer, not a PVA. Zinsser 1-2-3 or Glidden Gripper is what I usually use, unless I paint a bathroom - then I use Zinsser's BIN which is a shellac-based primer. PVA primers don't really do a good job of sealing off new drywall and mud, since all you're doing is putting on a thin coat of Elmer's Glue on the walls. Another problem are deep base colors like reds, yellows, and greens. The bases these colors are shot in are transparent bases with little to no titanium dioxide added. In this case, use a gray tinted primer, Glidden/ICI makes their Gripper in a gray tint. Cars use gray primer for a reason.

[miasman1]

Originally Posted by llljlalslolnlll

If the previous tenant did some serious cooking, the oils and such on the wall could affect it slightly.

clean it up good, use a oil or shellac-based primer.

[Arju]

We are getting the house painted right now... our painters are hell-bent on prepwork and you should be the same.

They sand and patch like no tomorrow until tomorrow

Also afterwards they put one coat at a time and several coats over a few days. The job is taking double as long but the work shows and it looks amazing.

[Susquehannock]

Originally Posted by cancersticks

Do not use low quality paint!! It's worth a few extra bucks to get a good brand; it will cover alot better than lower grades. In my experiences painting Behr and other Home Depot/Lowes brands look ok on newer walls (new drywall, very smooth wall surface) but complete poop on rougher walls. After talking to a local painter and paint store, I switched over to Benjamin Moore paints and haven't used anything since.

If you're using a roller, make sure you get the correct nap on it, as 'fluffier' rollers aren't necissarily better. If the walls are in great shape, nice and smooth, use a roller that has a very fine nap. The worse shape the walls are in, increase the nap size. Look here and use that to pick the roller accordingly.

Like xcelor8 said, paint looks funky as it dries so don't use that are an indicator of what the final product will look like. Give it time to dry fully. And don't bother with a third coat. Two coats at the most.

Well said .... 100% agreement here.

[fittysix]

Hmm, I see you don't have CIL paint in the states, its very good quality paint that can be had at any canadian tire, rona, or home depot, yes its more expensive than behr, but it is very good paint with a number of different grades and types for different applications.