Automotive legal [M]- Here is a good question for you...

[The Spyder]

I will start off with 2 things. 1 this will be long. 2 if you are lucky I will do cliffs.

A month ago, my girlfriend moved in with me, we have a cool condo in SW portland, a good friends family owns it. Her parents flipped. It was not a good thing. I was even assaulted by her father. Fun times! On to the car issues...

My gf has a 2003 VW Bug. Its a peice and she over paid. (Her parents made her buy it or a saturn, literally took her to a car lot and said were not leaving until you buy a car). She even got a second job to afford the damn thing. Anyways. She moves. Quits her 2nd job. Her parents are trying to demand the car back. Saying that they have co ownership. I talk to my lawyers, review the contracts/dmv paper work and they tell me everything her parents are saying is false and they have no legal rights to any owner ship of the vehical as a co signer. Her name on the title as owner, her name on the loan, her name on the registration. However her parents have now sniped her on 2 car payments. And since the father is on the loan, the credit union can not turn them away. They want her to take the $3500 in car payments she has made and treat it as if she was renting the car from them... Umm no. What my gf wants is if they want the car, they have to pay her the $3500 in payments she has made and sign a contract agreeing to continue payments on the loan. Unpon completion they will get full ownership of the car.

We are waiting until Monday for the paper work to be done at this point, but get this. I get a call at 9pm. She drove the car to work today, went inside, forgot something in the car and 10 minutes later when she went out to get this, it was gone. I had her call the cops and such, file a report. They have not called her since and told her it could just have to be dealt with through the lawyers. She gets an email from her parents saying they took the car with a copy of a key they secretly made and put it in "storage". If she does not get a loan of her own (which she has, I think we can get them taken off as co signers). They are keeping the car and having "paperwork" filled to have her name removed from the loan. Complete and utter assholes imo. She needs this car to get to work so she can even afford the small bills she has.

I see a few problems with this. 1 they are not the owner of the car legally. 2 they can not get her name off the title. 3 its not their car. 4 she will press charges against them and Monday we meet with lawyers.

What the hell should we do. She does not want the car, she has another one of mine she is welcome to drive. However she will not let them screw her like this too. Am I in the rite here, are my lawyers right? Im letting her handle this and letting her use my lawyers ($250h ouch...yay for freebie since its a friends dad). What trouble legally are the parents in. Her father is listed as a co owner (co signer as my lawyer put it, apparently the paper work leaves some legal interpretation /survivor ship but thats it on the title.) Think we can get him arrested for auto theft , that might be pushing it.

I am half tempted to say screw it. Let them get sued and in trouble with the law, sign off the title afters is said and done and let them have the over priced POS. But its what she wants to do really... Even to get rid of it legally, we have to draw up a contract that they have to sign saying she releases all legal rights to the vehicle along with all remaining loan as a burden to her parents

Cliffs:
1) GF moves out, parents pissed.
2) Parents co signed on car with her months ago.
3) Parents steal car and try to go above the law.
4)Lawyers are a good thing.
5) NO profit what so ever
6) Read monday to see what happens!

[iqarus]

the parents sound like absolute fuckheads

you can get them in trouble with the popo for car theft and having a key duplicated without the consent of the owner. you could also if you felt like being a OMGOMGOMGOMG, get the person who duplicated it in shit. because without proof of ownership it is ILLEGAL to copy a vehicle key.

[lopoetve]

press charges for grand theft auto. Send the fuckers to jail
edit: co signing is not co ownership. it just means that yuo're there as a backup, a guarantee, on the loan.

[The Poi]

are the police aware the car is entirely hers? This is theft. She needs to report the car as stolen.

[The Spyder]

Originally Posted by The Poi

are the police aware the car is entirely hers? This is theft. She needs to report the car as stolen.

It has been. I should have made that more clear. Thats what the police report was for.

[w00t1337]

Originally Posted by The Spyder

It has been. I should have made that more clear. Thats what the police report was for.

Then why are they not yet arrested?

[BandontheRun84]

Wow, I can't imagine having parents as shitty as they sound. I hope they get what is coming to them.

[Colicious]

sounds like theft to me. so the parents are not paying anything at all on the car?

[CanuckDave]

Wow, terrible parents, seriously who does that to their own daughter. lame.

[37731]

Take these fucks to court. Make sure you have all your papers, including bank account statements showing that she is the one paying for the car.

[prometheum]

Originally Posted by 37731

Take these fucks to court. Make sure you have all your papers, including bank account statements showing that she is the one paying for the car.

does it really matter legally who is making payments on the car? i mean as long as the paperwork is all in the girlfriend's name its her car right?

[vile1]

I dont mean to get a little abstract here but let me present something:

It's said that people that tend to make poor decisions, have poor decisions follow them.
What the fuck man? It seems like you just choose trouble wherever you go. The RX-7 business where everyone fucked you over, crashing other peoples FD's, gf's family is a wacko.


Dude, move to Iowa, build a house on a prairie, marry a plain ass white bitch named Sarah, plain and tall, and fucking lock your ass in the garage until you are finished with ONE FD.

I swear, it would be a lot less trouble....

[37731]

Originally Posted by prometheum

does it really matter legally who is making payments on the car? i mean as long as the paperwork is all in the girlfriend's name its her car right?

If she decides she wants the $3500 she's already paid instead of getting the car back, the judge will want proof of payment.

[illig]

That's seriously fucked up.

Why have they not been arrested?

[Liquid_Table]

If her parent's name is the primary co-signer then just have her stop making payments. The bank will repossess the car, she'll be done with it and her parents will be stuck with the bill.