borked welders! What do I do?

[ZMan]

So I'm in the middle of finally getting something done on my own personal truck, after months of working on friends rides, and my farking welder decides to take a dump.

Heres a little run down of my main machine at the moment...its a 9 or 10 year old Hobart Handler 130XL, it had pretty limited use up untill spring '06, when I helped my friend on his chop top '94 Ranger...I think overall I may have like 30-40 hours on this machine over its lifetime. I was using it friday night, about 10 seconds after I finished laying a bead on my passenger core support mount, it just stopped running. I hit the switch a couple times, nothing, unplugged it and plugged it back in, nothing. So this morning I went out there again, and it turned on, but shut off again after about 5 seconds. Any ideas whats goin on here?

And my second machine, which I purchased back in January, is a Hobart Beta-Mig 1800. I bought it off of my old boss, he said it worked fine when he stopped using to to upgrade to a Miller.. I am unsure of the age of it. I finally got around to putting a plug on it the other night, and I'm ASSUMING my wiring is correct (I'm no electrician), it turns on when I hit the switch, but it buzzes when I pull the trigger, and nothing moves.

I'm dying here! If all else fails I'll have to drop them off to Linde gas to have them fixed.

[lonmoer]

is the first one a stick welding machine?

[ZMan]

Originally Posted by lonmoer

is the first one a stick welding machine?

its a 110 mig, the second is a 220 mig.

[ZMan]

well I found/checked all the fuses and breakers, neither one works still. What time for this to happen.

[1337rider]

are you sure the welder is broke, or is the fan not turning on? our millermatic would appear to be off if the fan wasn't on, maybe thats the problem.

[ZMan]

Originally Posted by 1337rider

are you sure the welder is broke, or is the fan not turning on? our millermatic would appear to be off if the fan wasn't on, maybe thats the problem.

nope definatly doesn't do anything when I pulled the trigger. Millers don't use the fan untill they get warm, Hobart fans run all of the time.

[Will suck dick for d16]

hmmm maybe something on the control board died; there is a small control board in there if i recall.

the big welder i dont know; the small one is probably some small something fried or maybe the thermal protection curciut is cracking out

[monkey-boy]

could have triped the thermal overload circut.
i know once you trip that the thing it has to be opened up and manualy reset. Or you may just might be grounding out somewhere

edit: for the record, miller > everything else.