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Does any one have any experience with wind power for the home? Im buying a new home here in a month or so and am thinking of spending my tax credit on a renewable energy resource.

Wind i think is looking the best for the area i am in.

I am in Rochester NY in the Henrietta area.

I am looking at this turbine. http://www.solardyne.com/whis175higvo.html

Whisper 500. Seems decent enough to bring down my energy costs and between the NY incentives and my tax credit ill have some left over.

Any one else have wind, solar or some other form of alternative energy source that would mined shedding some light on the subject for me.

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Does your power company let you sell power back into the grid, run the meter backwards? Do you want a battery system, or just a simple grid connection and turbine?

That looks like a very reasonable turbine.
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how many open acres are on your property?
is this a residential or rural area?
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Does your power company let you sell power back into the grid, run the meter backwards? Do you want a battery system, or just a simple grid connection and turbine?

That looks like a very reasonable turbine.

I doubt he's planning on generating enough energy for all his needs with one turbine, so I would assume the off-grid/battery system isn't happening.

Running it in parallel with a grid connection is the easiest way to do it.
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Does your power company let you sell power back into the grid, run the meter backwards? Do you want a battery system, or just a simple grid connection and turbine?

That looks like a very reasonable turbine.

a 1978 federal law mandated that all public utilities buy back extra power from alternative sources under a certain Mwh. I believe it's under 25 Mwh and the power company has no choice but to buy the power from you.
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a 1978 federal law mandated that all public utilities buy back extra power from alternative sources under a certain Mwh. I believe it's under 25 Mwh and the power company has no choice but to buy the power from you.

hey,
how many open acres are on your property?
is this a residential or rural area?
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a 1978 federal law mandated that all public utilities buy back extra power from alternative sources under a certain Mwh. I believe it's under 25 Mwh and the power company has no choice but to buy the power from you.

Sweet, then go for it

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Running it in parallel with a grid connection is the easiest way to do it.

Absolutely. I don't see any reason (other than gadgetophilia) for having batteries as long as the power company is buying excess.
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hey,
how many open acres are on your property?
is this a residential or rural area?

its a residential area, i have 1/2 acre of land. The home i will be buying im going to be removing a few trees but i know i will need the turbine on a large pole.

dont know if it would be better to put the pole in the yard and have a huge and deep cement block to hold it. or mount it too the roof for a free 20 feet or so and anchor it with wires to various points.
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its a residential area, i have 1/2 acre of land. The home i will be buying im going to be removing a few trees but i know i will need the turbine on a large pole.

dont know if it would be better to put the pole in the yard and have a huge and deep cement block to hold it. or mount it too the roof for a free 20 feet or so and anchor it with wires to various points.

oh man, you've got a lot to learn

let's see
a 3.2kWh turbine would have to be significantly anchored in the ground.
we aren't talking about installing a basketball hoop here
construction level install

you cannot mount a wind turbine on your roof
these things vibrate and create lift that would quickly ruin your home

your first step is to call city hall
i don't know your state/city laws
but i would be beyond surprised if your city allowed for an install in a residentially zoned area
turbines create visual "pollution" and noise - your neighbors would most likely not be pleased

next, you do not have enough open land.
1/2 acre is not enough for a turbine
a turbine needs to have plenty of open room (no trees, no building - nothing but ground) on all sides
trees, buildings - these create turbulence in the wind that hits a turbine
and turbines are not designed to operate in frequently turbulent conditions
your efficiency would drop through the floor

they can be installed with a small amount of nearby obstructions
so long as the turbine is installed at twice the height of any nearby obstruction

do yourself a quick favor and take an hour to read the 8-part wind-energy primer at windustry
http://windustry.org/wind-basics/lea...ergy-today-and

it will answer a lot of your questions and tell you exactly what you'd need in order to do this
i think, just from the brief information you've given, that you're going to find that wind is not an option for you

i know new york is not the best for solar
(they have mediocre sun resource and only provide avoided cost in their net metering law)
but if you're dead-set on residential renewable
a mediocre pv (solar) system is better than a non-existant wind system
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With the kind of budget and space you are talking about you would be better off with a sealed tube solar water heater
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any one have any references to some decent solar options i can look at?
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aside from the property issues, most importantly your place must be quite windy for a wind turbine to be financially feasible. look up windmaps for your area, i came up with http://nyswe.awstruewind.com/. i've heard a lot of small-name turbines can be a bitch with the electrical work. the skystream 3.7 is apparently pretty plug-n-play though. the turbine was designed with NREL so the aerodynamics (and power efficiency) are legit. i wouldn't really trust the ones that looked like they were designed in a garage. they also have a really cool siting guide http://www.windenergy.com/documents/...ting_guide.pdf

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