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IM calling on the V8 300 hp under 20 g's

If its true.....shit, illl buy it in a heartbeat
Old 08-09-2004, 08:40 PM SebG is offline  
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I dont like drag racing. Twisties>straight line. I wish americans liked road circuits more than big ovals and drag strips.

As far as cons go, You can't adjust camber or caster and the wheels always move with each other. I can't tell you more as I don't know that much are suspension systems.

Edit: and no toe in either.
I didnt know about the camber and caster, but i did know one wheel effects the other, or and toe..
Like how would you describe the handling on a circuit?
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Very few cons. Uneaven surfaces IRS excels is a big point.

correct me if i'm wrong.
You're correct. http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_s...uspension1.htm
Old 08-09-2004, 08:40 PM SemperFly is offline  
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Meh, still. It would be nice to have to option. Cars that mate cheap American power with a small, light, nimble body/frame are far and few between and $$$.
It would definatly be nice to have the option. I'd prefer IRS for better tuning of the suspension characteristics; with IRS you can the car far closer to the edge.

The misconception is that people think live axles can't handle for shit when it's untrue. IRS is better but that doesn't make live axles bad handling at all.
Old 08-09-2004, 08:42 PM SemperFly is offline  
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Solid axle is better in this application. It IS a mustang, so it will get a lot of abuse at stoplights and the strip. The suspension is very good on the axle, it's supposed to handle very well.
Old 08-09-2004, 08:43 PM gribly is offline  
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I didnt know about the camber and caster, but i did know one wheel effects the other, or and toe..
Like how would you describe the handling on a circuit?
Well, basically you won't be able to corner as well because a solid axel isnt as efficient as IRS. You won't be able to hold as large a contact patch with a solid axel as an IRS since you can't adjust the Camber, caster or toein for optimal racing performance. Most street cars are not setup properly for track use manufcturers favor tire longevity and comfort over cornering performance.
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Well, basically you won't be able to corner as well because a solid axel isnt as efficient as IRS. You won't be able to hold as large a contact patch with a solid axel as an IRS since you can't adjust the Camber, caster or toein for optimal racing performance. Most street cars are not setup properly for track use manufcturers favor tire longevity and comfort over cornering performance.
Oh.. thanks.
Glad I got IRS
Btw, I found out a few days, you can adjust the ride height and spring rate on my beetle for the rear..
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I don't see why anybody would choose live axle over IRS unless you're car is strictly for drag. GM needs to get with the program (and ditch the outdated pushrod design as well, soooo 1960s ...... j/k ).
Old 08-09-2004, 08:46 PM Fear Night is offline  
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Oh.. thanks.
Glad I got IRS
Btw, I found out a few days, you can adjust the ride height and spring rate on my beetle for the rear..
Be warned though, many companies don't bother with caster or camber adjustment on some of their IRS cars. Making unadjustable setups are cheaper. You really have to get an IRS system designed with racing in mind to reap the full benefits of loosing the solid axel.
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(and ditch the outdated pushrod design as well, soooo 1960s ...... j/k ).

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Old 08-09-2004, 08:54 PM Whitebread is offline  
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solid is MUCH cheaper to manufacture from the rear end assembly to installation. Plus the majority of people buying the lower end stangs don't give a rats ass or will see an advantage of a IRS except for maybe being smoother riding. Then a good majority of GTs are setup for dragging so a solid is much better in that department. Then if you want a IRS, just buy a cobra or get a cobra assembly and drop it into your GT.
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:12 PM Ezekial is offline  
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solid is MUCH cheaper to manufacture from the rear end assembly to installation. Plus the majority of people buying the lower end stangs don't give a rats ass or will see an advantage of a IRS except for maybe being smoother riding. Then a good majority of GTs are setup for dragging so a solid is much better in that department. Then if you want a IRS, just buy a cobra or get a cobra assembly and drop it into your GT.
I wasn't refering to just stangs, I meant American sports cars in general.

The Viper, the vette and the Cobra are the only American sports cars with IRS that I can remember. The Viper and the Vette are too expensive for the weekend racer and don't you need a racing lisence to buy a cobra? I'd bet lots of money that all european and japanese sports cars come with IRS.
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I wasn't refering to just stangs, I meant American sports cars in general.

The Viper, the vette and the Cobra are the only American sports cars with IRS that I can remember. The Viper and the Vette are too expensive for the weekend racer and don't you need a racing lisence to buy a cobra? I'd bet lots of money that all european and japanese sports cars come with IRS.
I wasn't directing my post at you just the discusson

Yeah, the vette and viper are IRS. A Cobra can be bought by anyone, just the Cobra R (2000=IRS, 1993&95=solid) requires a license for the initial purchase.

I don't know of any RWD import or european cars that don't have IRS.
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