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A. Peter Schiff is not in jail or under suspicion as far as I know.

B. If you would have listened to Peter Schiff and many other people a few years ago you could be making 25-50% returns on your investments every year, instead of listening to idiot wallstreet banter that just want to keep this ball rolling.

C. The US economy is in much more dier shape than it ever has been in the history of this country. This recession can NOT be compared with the 70's, 80's, 30's, or before. It is an entirely new ball game.

D. "doomsday" might not be coming soon, but it will be coming eventually, and the more fiscally irresponsable we get, the harder the fall will be. Eventually China will want something other than dollars, and when the day the run on the dollar happens, that is the day the economy goes in the can.
The economy is worse than it ever has been in this country? Goddamn son. Just shut the fuck up.
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I already posted an article that explained that when measurements of waiting times are standardized the US has serious problems with waiting times as well. Apparently refuting the idea that wait times are far worse in Canada is playing stupid. Here's another report about that.

http://www.amsa.org/studytours/WaitingTimes_primer.pdf
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Shit, all you need to do is read the BC for a couple days and see all the "I think I broke my ankle/got the clap/got the AIDS/am pissing blood, but I don't have insurance, can you tell me I'm OK so I don't need to pay for a doctor's visit?" threads to see why waiting time isn't a good metric. Lots of people in the US don't have a measurable waiting time because they don't go to the doctor until a problem become critical.
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The economy is worse than it ever has been in this country? Goddamn son. Just shut the fuck up.

Sorry, I phrased that wrong. I meant to say we are setting ourselves up for by far the worst economic situation in our countries history.
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By: Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.

August 5, 2008 (LPAC)--The world has now reached the point of crisis which so many, even among my associates, have lacked the guts to see. The doom of the present world system, which was formally decreed for the future, from the guilty mouth of U.S. President Richard Nixon, on August 15, 1971, has now arrived. The exact day, or hour, on which a most notable kind of breaking development in U.S. policy might occur, now remains uncertain with respect to the short term, but, what is assured is that the present world system is doomed in the short term, perhaps the very short term.

Now, the relevant financial and political officials are lying their heads off. The uncertainty is, that while they are all lying, none among them is exactly certain what the truth is.

Presently, it is fairly estimated that no less than 1400- 3000 U.S. banks (not counting European banks, for example) are already lying virtually dead in the morgue of dead banks. Only a few among these have been processed for public burial, the others are lying as mortal remains in the cooler. The number could be much larger, perhaps 5,000 or more banks.

The reasons it is difficult to estimate the exact number, are two. First, the relevant officials and relevant others would be lying their heads off, if they still had heads. Second, there is a certain uncertainty about the definition of "dead"; the present system is certainly dead, and could not be resuscitated in its present form; how many of these cases could be resurrected under a new system, depends upon how soon, and in what framework the needed shift toward a replacement banking system might occur.

The Factor of Mass-Idiocy

With the dying-out of my own and the preceding generations, there is no longer any remaining competence on the subject of economy among the younger generations, neither the Baby-Boomer generation which has generated most of the worst incompetence reigning within the U.S. Congress and Wall Street today, nor the young-adult generation, has any competence in the matter of economics. They are fantasy- ridden, who share something of the rubbed-off lunacy of former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, in their wishing to believe that money is simply what their wishful dreaming might hope money might be, or become. With rare individual exceptions, the relevant reigning academics, marketeers, and politician are as crazy as loons in these matters.

The pertinent fact is that money is essentially merely fictitious, not an expression of any sort of "real" value. The very belief in a "money system" is a definite mark of some form of a personal clinical insanity closely related to the most morbid types of sexual fantasies. The rising supremacy, in the matter of government and finance, of, most notably, the so- called "68ers" of North America, western and central Europe, and the former Soviet Union today, echoes the "68ers" hatred of "blue collar" industrial, agricultural, and scientific strata of society, a condition in which actual and simulated cocaine fantasies have taken the place of reality in their concerns. For these "Alice-in-Wonderland" types of depraved veterans of the "68er" mass-lunacy money is "Anything we hope to choose we can believe."

The first phase of the ongoing collapse, is financial- economic. The second phase is the collapse of the prevalent "Boomers" lunatic belief in "our chosen, globalized, way of life." However defiantly the lunatics wish to choose to believe, the system is now coming down,possibly instigating a global plunge into a "New Dark Age", one that is more long-lasting than that of Europe's Fourteenth Century.

The only "prediction" which makes sense now, is the prediction that you might suddenly, miraculously, give up your silly ways of believing. The party in which you thought you were participating, is over.

The present system is as good as dead. Sane people are those who accept that reality as fact.
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If government holds the purse strings on your socialized medicine, the government holds the ability to stop treatment. No one wants the government deciding when enough is enough.

Just because there is socialized care does not mean there has to be no private care as well. You know that, right?
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I would like to say one thing to the person who started this thread.


There wouldn't be people who hated the U.S. if the U.S. hadn't stuck it's nose in other people's business in the first place.


Had the U.S. not done that we would have no need for national security.
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I would like to say one thing to the person who started this thread.


There wouldn't be people who hated the U.S. if the U.S. hadn't stuck it's nose in other people's business in the first place.


Had the U.S. not done that we would have no need for national security.

Do you really believe that?

There are plenty of historical examples of countries attacking other countries for no better reason than to steal resources, people, and land.

Fear and greed will always be present in humans.
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Do you really believe that?

There are plenty of historical examples of countries attacking other countries for no better reason than to steal resources, people, and land.

Fear and greed will always be present in humans.

And terrorism steals people, resources, and/or land?
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And terrorism steals people, resources, and/or land?

They want to disrupt society, mostly to destroy a society's way of life, or to "free" people who they want to rule. A-Q attacked and hated us for no better reason than defending SA from Hussein.
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Do you really believe that?

There are plenty of historical examples of countries attacking other countries for no better reason than to steal resources, people, and land.

Fear and greed will always be present in humans.


Yes it will. Nobody is arguing that.


I guess I should have worded that a little differently.



If we had kept our noses out of other people's business, there would be no reason to spend as much money as we do on national defense.
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Yes it will. Nobody is arguing that.


I guess I should have worded that a little differently.



If we had kept our noses out of other people's business, there would be no reason to spend as much money as we do on national defense.

I would agree to a certain extent. But evil prevails when good men stand aside and let it.

Bin Laden and A-Q was pissed because of 1991, nothing else.
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I would agree to a certain extent. But evil prevails when good men stand aside and let it.

Bin Laden and A-Q was pissed because of 1991, nothing else.

Bin Laden has stated the reason he wanted to attack America was to bankrupt us.... which he is doing quite nicely now
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Bin Laden's attacks are 99.9 percent the US's fault. I don't think there's any debate over that question. Chickens come home to roost.
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