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so what's with the businness plan dude, are [m] members gettinga discount or what?
Old 02-21-2008, 12:07 AM kooshball is offline  
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i just did some reading, and evidently the iphone screen is practically scratch-proof under "normal" circumstances (keys in pocket etc)

Would you comment on this? Is it true?
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Wow, you're a prick tonight!

Can't you just take this guy's posts at face value and enjoy the eye candy? It's pretty damn cool what he did, who gives a shit wether or not it's practical, or was even necessary? People do things for reasons other than being "necessary".

In all honesty, and I'm not being facetious, I envy his modified iPhone. The thing is seriously pimp.

I was poking fun at the use of a scanning electron microscope. Though I've been a machinist for four years, it was pretty simple to conclude that the iPhone is aluminum and stainless steel. Due to the nature of modding, it's irrelevant to know the chemical composition of the original component... you're going to be replacing it anyway.
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In all honesty, and I'm not being facetious, I envy his modified iPhone. The thing is seriously pimp.

I was poking fun at the use of a scanning electron microscope. Though I've been a machinist for four years, it was pretty simple to conclude that the iPhone is aluminum and stainless steel. Due to the nature of modding, it's irrelevant to know the chemical composition of the original component... you're going to be replacing it anyway.

but isnt it cool?
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but isnt it cool?
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Ill have an update with some info on the TiN process Thursday...

I didn't quote the message but one member was pointing out the scratches in one of the microscope pictures. These scratches are NOT on the glass screen. They are minor scuffs on the chrome bezel from putting the phone in and out of my pocket. This picture was taken at about 100x so those are micro scratches, like 1-5 microns. The bezel still appeared to be glossy to the naked eye. I just wanted to point out that the chrome housing, wile decent, will get scratched and messed up even when you baby it.

I really think mobile devices should look just as good after 1 year of use as they do the day you get them. While this may not be entirely possible the fine time piece market has inspired me to bring more durability to another device we now carry around with us all the time, our phone.

The mineral glass screen does a good job at resisting scratches, I managed to put a tinny scuff in mine (with the optical microscope lens) but it's barely noticeable and doesn't bother me.
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In all honesty, and I'm not being facetious, I envy his modified iPhone. The thing is seriously pimp.

I was poking fun at the use of a scanning electron microscope. Though I've been a machinist for four years, it was pretty simple to conclude that the iPhone is aluminum and stainless steel. Due to the nature of modding, it's irrelevant to know the chemical composition of the original component... you're going to be replacing it anyway.

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how much did this end up costing?
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I have had an iPhone for only a week, and am curious... if my display gets that scratched up will it stil function properly?

Nope, Apple anticipates you'll throw it out and buy a new one.
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Now that the phone had been characterized I could set my attention on how to make it better. I focused on the front bezel and rear logo. Had they been chrome plated aluminum, plastic or anything other then hard steel it would not have been to my advantage to utilize the unique properties of TiN. One engineer described it to me like this.

TiN is indeed very strong and wear resistant. Placing this hard "shell" over something soft would be like standing on mud covered in ice. The underlying material will not provide enough support to the TiN; thus allowing objects to deform the outer layer of TiN, resulting in a scratch. TiN will never crack or peel, but it must move with the underlying material.

One of the reasons it is used on hard cutting tools, Jet engine blades and surgical implants is its ability to magnify the strength and hardness of the all so important underlying material. Take stainless steel for example. On its own very strong and durable a TiN coating magnifies these properties creating a supper hard, durable surface.

The process to deposit TiN is also quite unique compared to other surface treatments such as plaiting and anodizing. TiN is deposited under vacuum in a plasma enhanced chemical vapor deposition (PECVD or PVD) tool. I find this process to be very cool.

A large disk of pure titanium called a target is inserted into the machine. Once at vacuum nitrogen gas is flowed into the system and an electrical bias between the target and the gas generates a plasma. These positively charged particles are accelerated at high velocity toward the negatively charged titanium target. On impact these nitrogen ions knock free titanium atoms. You can think of it as atomic sand blasting. These atoms then fall coalescing on the surface of the parts to be treated with TiN.

Here are some fun pictures of the PECVD tool:

Overall system, it is used for ALLOT more then just TiN deposition, mostly for semiconductor manufacturing.


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holy crap. you put your iphone into THAT?
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it might be (slightly) off topic, but since i just got my iphone i am wondering if you could suggest me a "skin" to put over my iphone... one that won't increase the physical size by any noticeable amount. All the skins ive seen are ones taht just come off easily and also let dirt get trapped under the corners, which grinds it into the phone anyway.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:05 PM Airbase-Seven is offline  
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why do you have access to these tools? You hint at it.... work? school?
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Given how awesome I think it looks, I would consider paying for this as long as its reasonable. First, I need an iPhone.. and if the 2G proves worthy, then I will be all over it.

Very interesting post. I'm always a fan of content+++.
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awesome post man!!!! i love seeing all the chemical analysis being a 4th year chemist myself. i got an iphone that is looking too normal, the black (TiAlN) plating might be needed. pricing, once figured out would be awesome to know.

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