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what more important in a torrent, seeds or peers?

always wondered which one is a better stat?

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Old 11-25-2006, 10:36 PM consolidator is offline  
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seeders i believe have the whole file shared and leechers only have partical bits, so im guessing seeders otherwise the larger number wins
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Old 11-25-2006, 11:08 PM Eshindi is offline  
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always wondered which one is a better stat?

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you need some seeders because they have the whole file (all the pieces). but when i first downloaded vista rtm there were 3 seeds and 300 peers, and it worked out just fine. keep in mind the pieces aren't downloaded in any order, so i may have the first half, you have the second half, and someone else grabs the whole thing from each of us without using a seed at all.

obviously the more peers with high percentages the more options you have to pull from, which is why seeds (100% finished peers) are the best.
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i am stuck with a 5 gig download at 93.8%

goddamn it, nobody is seeding the fucker
Old 11-25-2006, 11:19 PM consolidator is offline  
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the nature of bittorrent is that as long as someone has the file you need it doesnt matter if they are a seeder or just a peer. what you want are people who dont limit their upload and have lots to spare

edit: and when i say file i mean peice of the torrent that you havent downloaded yet
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I think seeders are more important, because they have the WHOLE file.
I'm downloading a file that is stuck at 94.8% with no seeds. I have a share ratio of 5.7 on it because i refuse to stop it, just hoping that someone will hop on and i can finish it.
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That's kinda like asking "which is more important for determining the area of a rectangle, length or width?"

You need both to really do anything.
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This always happens to me when I get something important as a torrent. I always get stuck at 90%, or I can get the entire file... at 3kb/s
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That's kinda like asking "which is more important for determining the area of a rectangle, length or width?"

You need both to really do anything.

Thats a really bad analogy.
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Old 11-26-2006, 06:40 PM Zeagle is offline  
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The older the torrent is, the fewer the peers, so the older the torrent is the less likely it will be that the swarm of peers has a complete copy of the data. Seeders have the whole damn thing, so of course they're more important for continued torrent health.

And no, you don't need any peers. Peers are only important to reduce the load on the seeders (who only need to be an active part of the torrent if the peer swarm lacks a complete copy of the data).

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That's kinda like asking "which is more important for determining the area of a rectangle, length or width?"

You need both to really do anything.

Not really..you can download a file from seeders alone, without any peers (excluding yourself).
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Not really..you can download a file from seeders alone, without any peers (excluding yourself).
you can also download a file only from peers
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you can also download a file only from peers

doesn't a peer become a seeder when he completes downloading the file however?
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doesn't a peer become a seeder when he completes downloading the file however?
true, but you don't need a seed if enough of the file is distributed to peers (been on enough torrents where there is more than 1 complete copy on the network, but everyone's still a peer because no one node has the full file)
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