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just becuase you realise a fact, that he IS the president of your country and therefore your representative, doesn't mean you're supporting him or his career.

If I'm mistaken and asa was not insinuating that you support your president at all costs and turns, then I retract my insulting statements. asa can clarify.

edit- although he did say the poster was "pretty god damned stupid" so I doubt I misunderstood him. Once again, asa can clarify.
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You are retarded. Why would you support a man just because he's your president? Dissent is the one of the strongest forms of patriotism and it is every American's right, duty and responsibility. That's how you keep the government in check you fucking moron.

an excellent example of reading comprehension being trampled by emotions that come about from political beliefs
no matter if you disagree, no matter what you feel or believe, for the next four years, he's your president
do you have to agree with his policies, or his personal beliefs? no, because that won't change the fact that he's your president. do you have to like his weaknesses? do you have to admire his strengths? no on both counts, it's best to have a strong president as it reflects positively on our country, but weak or strong, it doesn't change the fact that he's the president

and because he expressed it better than i could, i'll quote John Scalzi
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One of the reasons I have always registered as an independent voter is that I believe my highest allegiance as a voter is not to a political party but to the Constitution of the United States, the foundational document of our law. Our Constitution sets up the system we use to choose a president. If a candidate ó any candidate ó fulfills the requirements of that system to become our president, then I believe itís my duty to acknowledge that, yes, that candidate is now my president. I can criticize that president, argue with that president, loathe that president and work to replace that president in the manner allowed for by the ConstitutionÖ but what I canít do is deny that he or she is my president. Thatís wrong, factually and morally, and itís dismissive of the Constitution of the United States.
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edit- although he did say the poster was "pretty god damned stupid" so I doubt I misunderstood him. Once again, asa can clarify.

it is stupid, and it's misleading
shit, if that's the way your political beliefs run, one of the NObama stickers is better than that
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an excellent example of reading comprehension being trampled by emotions that come about from political beliefs
no matter if you disagree, no matter what you feel or believe, for the next four years, he's your president
do you have to agree with his policies, or his personal beliefs? no, because that won't change the fact that he's your president. do you have to like his weaknesses? do you have to admire his strengths? no on both counts, it's best to have a strong president as it reflects positively on our country, but weak or strong, it doesn't change the fact that he's the president

and because he expressed it better than i could, i'll quote John Scalzi

OKay.... But do you believe that you are supposed support your president at all costs and turns as I said? Because I can not agree with that.

And I did read your entire post.
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OKay.... But do you believe that you are supposed support your president at all costs and turns as I said? Because I can not agree with that.

And I did read your entire post.

No, his post states that it is your right to disagree with the president and you don't have to support his beliefs but you cannot deny that he IS your president, for better or worse.
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No, his post states that it is your right to disagree with the president and you don't have to support his beliefs but you cannot deny that he IS your president, for better or worse.

MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK
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s but you cannot deny that he IS your president,

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YOUR PRES-O-DENT IS BLACK

Not my president.
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No, his post states that it is your right to disagree with the president and you don't have to support his beliefs but you cannot deny that he IS your president, for better or worse.

I'm not sure what you're saying, it sounds to me like you're saying, that he's saying, you can't outright deny the person that your president is... or something
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Woot, got my 100 round mag.


Here it is fitted up:


Zombies look out!

Yep, I can foresee this being useful.

Pyramid, don't read this please:
 BTW I'm refraining pointing out that even he can't come up with a good reason for owning one of these (no tard smiley here because I know you're reading this pyramid )  
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I'm not sure what you're saying, it sounds to me like you're saying, that he's saying, you can't outright deny the person that your president is... or something

Yes, that is basically the gist of it. Unless I'm wrong he's pointing out the fact that regardless of whether or not you agree with, like or support the president he is still in fact your president. The posted bumper sticker was "Not my president", which is technically inaccurate.
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